On today’s episode, I talk with Dr. Wayne Pernell. He’s a leadership coach, author, clinical psychologist, magician, and blackbelt. Throughout our conversation, Wayne brings up a topic that many of us have struggled with throughout our lives: doing what others want or expect of us, rather than what we want to do with our own lives. He shares with us a great story about his journey to realizing this personal truth.
Dr. Wayne Pernell struggles with people-pleasing tendencies in his professional life, too. The professional truth that he shares is that he realized he needed to develop a skill of being a great leader without needing to be liked. This is an incredibly important nuance. As a leader, you want to be able to inspire people to follow your direction, but you don’t want to become a dictator. So, finding that subtle nuance is essential.
We also jump into some questions, like how to use love and passion in our work, what makes him stand out as a leadership coach, and how exercise regimes transfer into success in business and life.
Sit back, relax, and take a listen. I’ll see you soon.
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